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	<title>Comments on: Science, Engineering, &#038; Growing Up</title>
	<link>http://drshellie.blogsome.com/2006/11/18/science-engineering-growing-up/</link>
	<description>life, life in science, miscellaneous thoughts</description>
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		<title>by: Rosie</title>
		<link>http://drshellie.blogsome.com/2006/11/18/science-engineering-growing-up/#comment-316</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:41:40 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>These comments have been invaluable to me as is this whole site. I thank you for your comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>These comments have been invaluable to me as is this whole site. I thank you for your comment.
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		<title>by: drshellie</title>
		<link>http://drshellie.blogsome.com/2006/11/18/science-engineering-growing-up/#comment-212</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 01:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I am not too particular about being called a scientist vs. being called an engineer. I suppose I'd still say &quot;I'm a scientist,&quot; since &quot;I'm an engineer&quot; sounds like I should either build bridges or design circuits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I am not too particular about being called a scientist vs. being called an engineer. I suppose I&#8217;d still say &#8220;I&#8217;m a scientist,&#8221; since &#8220;I&#8217;m an engineer&#8221; sounds like I should either build bridges or design circuits.
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		<title>by: skookumchick</title>
		<link>http://drshellie.blogsome.com/2006/11/18/science-engineering-growing-up/#comment-211</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks for this post, Dr. Shellie.  I've been thinking about it for a while now, and I'm working on my own &quot;how did I get to be an engineer&quot; post too.  So where did we get this idea that engineers apply science?  Because I know plenty of people who call themselves engineers who are MILES away from &quot;applying&quot; science on the way they're really &quot;doing&quot; science.   So maybe identity is all that is really important, identifying with one group or another, maybe that demonstrates some kind of philosophical commitment rather than any &quot;real&quot; intellectual difference.  That might explain why people keep using these terms that don't really fit for what we do.  Because, after all, scientists *do* have to worry about business and money - just in the context of their grants, rather than in selling their work to some industry rep.

So, is it important to you to be considered both a scientist and an engineer, rather than a hybrid or something in between the two?  or neither, but instead some new kind of investigator?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks for this post, Dr. Shellie.  I&#8217;ve been thinking about it for a while now, and I&#8217;m working on my own &#8220;how did I get to be an engineer&#8221; post too.  So where did we get this idea that engineers apply science?  Because I know plenty of people who call themselves engineers who are MILES away from &#8220;applying&#8221; science on the way they&#8217;re really &#8220;doing&#8221; science.   So maybe identity is all that is really important, identifying with one group or another, maybe that demonstrates some kind of philosophical commitment rather than any &#8220;real&#8221; intellectual difference.  That might explain why people keep using these terms that don&#8217;t really fit for what we do.  Because, after all, scientists *do* have to worry about business and money - just in the context of their grants, rather than in selling their work to some industry rep.</p>
	<p>So, is it important to you to be considered both a scientist and an engineer, rather than a hybrid or something in between the two?  or neither, but instead some new kind of investigator?
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		<title>by: Alethea</title>
		<link>http://drshellie.blogsome.com/2006/11/18/science-engineering-growing-up/#comment-205</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Engineering has always had exactly that aura in my mind, also. There's a fantastic column in American Scientist about engineering. But in day-to-day life, it's very satisfying to be able to let yourself have flights of (scientific) fancy as well as work on the problem of implementing how to address those hypotheses. I think many of us have both elements in us - including many self-labeled 'engineers'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Engineering has always had exactly that aura in my mind, also. There&#8217;s a fantastic column in American Scientist about engineering. But in day-to-day life, it&#8217;s very satisfying to be able to let yourself have flights of (scientific) fancy as well as work on the problem of implementing how to address those hypotheses. I think many of us have both elements in us - including many self-labeled &#8216;engineers&#8217;.
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		<title>by: PLK</title>
		<link>http://drshellie.blogsome.com/2006/11/18/science-engineering-growing-up/#comment-204</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 04:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Consider yours a privileged position at the boundaries of science and technology: that you have the chance to ponder and probe whether your true calling is science or engineering (or a certain mixture of both).

As a mathematician deeply immersed in a world of sometimes breathtakingly beautiful ideas and structures which are not necessarily useful, I sometimes wonder what
impact would I have had on the outside world, had I wandered in a different direction: say, that of engineering (or your kind of world).  But that seems too far-away a world for me to have the courage to plunge in it in any depth now.

My guess is that if you had opted for the winding path of cosmology, in 7 years you'd have been very distant from the possibility of being this certain as to where you really belong (that is, of course, if you cared to ask the question then, and if in response to that you didn't equate finding success with having found your true calling, as one is quite prone to do).


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Consider yours a privileged position at the boundaries of science and technology: that you have the chance to ponder and probe whether your true calling is science or engineering (or a certain mixture of both).</p>
	<p>As a mathematician deeply immersed in a world of sometimes breathtakingly beautiful ideas and structures which are not necessarily useful, I sometimes wonder what<br />
impact would I have had on the outside world, had I wandered in a different direction: say, that of engineering (or your kind of world).  But that seems too far-away a world for me to have the courage to plunge in it in any depth now.</p>
	<p>My guess is that if you had opted for the winding path of cosmology, in 7 years you&#8217;d have been very distant from the possibility of being this certain as to where you really belong (that is, of course, if you cared to ask the question then, and if in response to that you didn&#8217;t equate finding success with having found your true calling, as one is quite prone to do).
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		<title>by: drshellie</title>
		<link>http://drshellie.blogsome.com/2006/11/18/science-engineering-growing-up/#comment-203</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 02:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Nope! All I know is that the intricacies of paint-drying are sometimes known as &quot;polymer science.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Nope! All I know is that the intricacies of paint-drying are sometimes known as &#8220;polymer science.&#8221;
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		<title>by: Lab Lemming</title>
		<link>http://drshellie.blogsome.com/2006/11/18/science-engineering-growing-up/#comment-202</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Do you know much about the tedium of paint-manufacturing?  I need to learn all about that for some cutting edge science my boss wants me to figure out...

The project is almost as fascinating as watching the stuff dry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Do you know much about the tedium of paint-manufacturing?  I need to learn all about that for some cutting edge science my boss wants me to figure out&#8230;</p>
	<p>The project is almost as fascinating as watching the stuff dry.
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